If you don't want or can't get an alarm system, or in addition to one, you
can drill the sides of your window frames and install  3/4 inch black pipe
as bars.  Horizontal ones don't have that "jail" look, and you can hang
stuff on them.  Just be sure and bore into the framing studs so you have
real strength.  If the windows are already in, you have to have a bigger
hole on one side so you can pivot the bars into place.  Just back fill with
epoxy and all will be well.

Joe

Joseph Sullivan

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Dana Farmer&
Cindy Miller
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:44 PM
To: 'Roger Books'; 'walter cheever'
Cc: 'old tools'
Subject: RE: [OldTools] Re: intro & shop question

Lots of good advice so far, I especially like the sky light idea.

Maximize your wall and ceiling height.

I'd like to suggest putting double or triple window units so you can look up
from the bench and have a nice view. Having the natural light will help make
it that much more pleasant. I recently moved my bench over to the window and
really enjoy it.

I would strongly suggest some sort of alarm system, or at very least
pre-wire for one. Some alarm companies will come out and pre-wire for very
cheap or maybe free. Run enough power to handle any future tailed devices.
Some sort of wall mounted power fan for those time you wish to suck those
nasty fumes out. Don't forget heating and or cooling needs,

If you're anything like me, assume you will be tinkering with your shop
layout a fair amount. Be flexible in your initial set up.

Dana

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Roger Books
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:43 PM
To: walter cheever
Cc: old tools
Subject: [OldTools] Re: intro & shop question

Thanks all, great information.

I'm debating 10x16.  I'm trying to keep a reasonable amount of space
clear in the center of the room for finishing and wargaming.  The roll
around equipment will be perfect.  A scrap box is going into the
layout also.  The big debate is windows or wall space   I'm thinking a
nice tool chest the same height as the bench  and a few feet away
from it would work out nicely for rarely used tools and allow more
window space..  I have to save some space in the rafters for SWMBO's
holiday decorations.

This is  not going to be a metal shed.  I  am thinking concrete block
rests for you basic sled shed.  I'm also trying to figure out enough
windows while still having a climbing wall on the back side.  I can
see asymmetry is going to be needed while still making it look good.
SWMBO is impatient and just wants it done.  I want a work area I will
be happy with.  Bits like the climbing wall will work in my favor.  :)

I'll do pictures and post them.  First stop is a permit.

Roger
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