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232289 Brian Rytel <brian.rytel@g...> 2012‑08‑09 Re: Case plane / rubber plane?
 2 pair grooving planes 11-1/8 [number meaning unclear] 

Without seeing the original document and it's appearance, could this be
1(, or space) 1-1/8? As is 1 pair is a 1" groove and the other 1
1/8"? Those seem awfully large though. I guess that measurement could be
  of the (max) thickness of board they cut a groove in, not the width of
  the groove. A different guess would be a #11 and a 1/8" possibly what
  was marked on the planes themselves depending on origin.

The Sandusky Table listed in my prior message notes match planes up to 1
1/4" FWIW.

Brian J.M. Rytel brian.rytel@g...

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Phil Schempf  wrote:
> Tom-
>
> I looked in Whelan. He listed neither directly. He has a section on
> casemakers and the specialized planes they used to create "air-tight
> cases". Generally the planes would create a shallow radiused groove or
> grooves that would mate with a raised bead creating a tighter joint
> than a simple butt join. They were used particularly on the edges of
> doors. Maybe they'd be used at remote posts to create a more element
> proof case than rougher cases, but I'm skeptical. It looks like some
> of them at least were used in pairs like match planes, but yielding a
> shallow joint that could be opened again.
>
> No mention at all of rubber planes, but what do you expect in a book
> about wooden planes.
>
> Phil
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Tom Holloway wrote:
>
>> GGs, I've found some tool inventories of the carpenter shop of
>> Hudson's Bay Company's Fort Vancouver, [
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Vancouver> for the historical
>> context, <http://www.nps.gov/fova/index.htm> for the modern National
>> Park Service reconstruction,] for 1845, that I hope someone can help
>> identify. Among the various types of planes that I CAN figure out
>> (see full inventory below). are listed "1 case plane" and 1 rubber
>> plane." I've tried searching both via Google and in the OT message
>> archive, but the various uses and alternative meanings of the two
>> separate words in each case yields only frustration. Can anyone here
>> describe for me, and/or point me to web resources on, mid-19th
>> century woodworking tools known as "case plane" and "rubber plane"?
>> TIA, Tom Holloway <http://furfortfunfacts.blogspot.com/>
>>
>> Here is the complete inventory for 1845 [with a few notes by me in
>> square brackets], which might help in figuring out what case planes
>> and rubber planes are NOT: 6 adzes 4 large square head axes 12
>> grooving axes 8 screw augers [probably large =93T=94 augers, for
>> boring holes in beams] 6 shell augers 1 brace [and] 36 bits 1 hand
>> saw file 1 pair compasses 1 screw driver 4 gouges 1 small square, 6
>> inch 3 assorted gimlets 4 spike gimlets 1 jointer plane 3 trying
>> planes 4 jack planes 1 hand plane [probably a small smoothing plane]
>> 2 pair grooving planes 11-1/8 [number meaning unclear] 3 bead planes
>> 2 molding planes 1 hand saw 3 tenon saws 2 window planes 1 case
>> plane 1 rubber plane 1 half round file 12 inches 3 bastard files 1
>> pit saw file 1 cross cut saw file 2 rat tail files 3 flat bastard
>> files 3 plough keys 1 oil stone 6 shingling axes 2 key hole saws 1
>> pair pincers 10 assorted chisels 9 socket chisels 3 kent hammers 3
>> foot rules
>>
>>
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