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153524 | Alan DuBoff <aland@s...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Re: Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 10:12, Mark Huberty wrote: > My question to the list is: if you had 30lbs of tools to ship from the US to > Italy (cost, about $100) with this in mind, what would they be? Keep in mind > that Italy doesn't really have anything like Home Despot, so ready > availability of stuff locally is not to be assumed. Tailed apprentices are > also out, as much for lack of them in my inventory as for personal > preference. Basic gardening stuff (shovels, axes, machetes, etc) is assumed > to be there already. I'd make sure to include some chisels (bench and mortise), a couple saws, a plane or two (block plane, smoother), odds and ends (marking gauge, dividers, sharpening stones, saw files, combo square, etc...). Wood could be a problem in Italy, isn't the country made of stone?;-) Seriously, don't miss out on going to the Strad museum in Cremona if you get a chance. The old hand made tools are really great to see, and it's quite amazing that he produced some of the worlds best violins, ever! Things like hand forged calipers, that stuff is amazing... -- Alan DuBoff Software Orchestration GPG: 1024D/B7A9EBEE 5E00 57CD 5336 5E0B 288B 4126 0D49 0D99 B7A9 EBEE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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153519 | "Mark Huberty" <markhuberty@h...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
First, a short bio: I'm currently a grad student in International Relations, but in my misspent youth I tinkered about with an all-hand-tool shop and built myself a decent collection of tools for general cabinetmaking and construction. About three years back I spent the fall in Yorkshire (Yarm, for those of you who know it) puttering about with a friend who, among other things, restored old houses and furniture. Not only did I gain a great friend and a lot of knowledge, but a gift of a late-model Norris A6 was part of my wages. Second, the problem: I'm going to be living on Isola d'Elba for the summer as research assistant/gardener/carpenter for a professor at school. Tasks range from building a fountain to making a cabinet to figuring out what Germany's current state means to the progress of the European Union. My question to the list is: if you had 30lbs of tools to ship from the US to Italy (cost, about $100) with this in mind, what would they be? Keep in mind that Italy doesn't really have anything like Home Despot, so ready availability of stuff locally is not to be assumed. Tailed apprentices are also out, as much for lack of them in my inventory as for personal preference. Basic gardening stuff (shovels, axes, machetes, etc) is assumed to be there already. Thanks for any thoughts you all might have on this problem. Cheers. Mark Huberty ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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153525 | "Thomas R. Bruce" <trb2@c...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Re: Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
Mark Huberty wrote: > My question to the list is: if you had 30lbs of tools to ship from the > US to Italy (cost, about $100) with this in mind, what would they be? > Keep in mind that Italy doesn't really have anything like Home Despot, > so ready availability of stuff locally is not to be assumed. Tailed > apprentices are also out, as much for lack of them in my inventory as > for personal preference. Basic gardening stuff (shovels, axes, > machetes, etc) is assumed to be there already. How fancy a cabinet? Out of what? Do you have to plumb the fountain? Inquiring minds want to know. Tb. -- _________________________________________ Thomas R. Bruce (trb2@c...) Director,Legal Information Institute Cornell Law School http://www.law.cornell.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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153527 | "Gary k" <gtgrouch@r...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Re: Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
Mark, I imagine you'll get answers all over the board (pun intended). I don't have a specific list but just some thoughts. Are you limited in the amount of volume or the max dimension that your 30 pounds (less than 14 kg) of tools can occupy? For instance, if you have to stay under 28" (70 cm) then a 30" jointer is unfeasible. I primarily use planes with cast iron bottoms. These are nice, but wood is lighter, especially for the bigger ones. Also, wood won't break if dropped. Consider mostly wood planes especially the larger ones. Some processes are vastly easier if the tool fits exactly. For instance, if you need a 1/2" hole, you pretty much need a #8 auger bit. Another situation where this comes to mind is chiselling a mortise. Having the right width chisel is important. Expansive bits like the Clark might help, but you should consider your choice of these tools carefully. Good luck! This is the kind of problem I'd *like* to have. Gary K (too) Close to Buffalo NY, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Huberty" |
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153533 | "Richard Morony @(:^]#" <popeye91@v...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Re: Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
"My question to the list is: if you had 30lbs of tools to ship from the US to Italy (cost, about $100) with this in mind, what would they be? " Regarding the ensuing posts to the lists: This is gonna be great!, like a trailer trash drag-queen waitin' fer Jerry Springer to come on!! Rich-Maybe I'm enjoying the witty reparte too much? http://mysite.verizon.net/popeye91/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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153545 | scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Re: Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
Let's see, 100 pounds and varying tasks from cabinetry, masonry to influencing a government, plus there is always you, yourself to consider. Pick the friendliest, cutest beauty contest winner of your entire state and your problems will resolve themselves as the entire island volunteers to help. Even if they don't, whattaya you care? yours, Scott ********** Scott Grandstaff, Box 409, Happy Camp, CA 96039 ********* Tools:http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/scott/scotts/tools/tools.html PageWorks:http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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153538 | "Thomas R. Bruce" <trb2@c...> | 2005‑12‑13 | Re: Stuck on an island, need some tools (no, really) |
Mark Huberty wrote: > My question to the list is: if you had 30lbs of tools to ship from the > US to Italy (cost, about $100) with this in mind, what would they be? > Keep in mind that Italy doesn't really have anything like Home Despot, > so ready availability of stuff locally is not to be assumed. Tailed > apprentices are also out, as much for lack of them in my inventory as > for personal preference. Basic gardening stuff (shovels, axes, Let me try to take a comprehensive crack at this, assuming that the cabinet will involve some rabbeting and maybe a drawer or two, and that you'll be doing some general factotum handyman duty as well. Sorry for the inclusion of modern tools, but sometimes that's what you gotta have. I bet I missed stuff, though, and am over the weight limit anyway -- and am sure others won't hesitate to express other opinions. Layout: Combination square Mortise/marking gauge (superfluous but handy) Small machinists adjustable square Divider with interchangeable metal point/pencil so it can also be a compass Tape measure One of those cheap laser levels from Lee Valley (can be adapted for longer levelling onsite) Sawing: Rip Crosscut (toolbox sized) Backsaw (midsized) Coping saw, I guess. Boring: Brace (with dual chuck capable of dealing with both tanged and round bits) Auger bit set Drill bit set Driving: Metrix multiposition ratchet driver for hex bits Bit set from the Borg, with phillips, hex, straight slot, etc. Whacking: Plumb 16-oz claw hammer (fiberglass handle) Fashion mallet onsite if needed. Paring: Set of Marples Blue Chip chisels, or equiv 1/4" mortise chisel, maybe superfluous if you chain-drill mortises Planing: #5 jack plane low-angle block 1-1/2" rabbet plane (wooden) #4 smoother if there's room Generic spokeshave for shaping. Grabbing: Needlenose-style small vise-grip plier (superfluous but handy) 8" arc-joint plier Needlenose plier with wire cutter. Turning: Adjustable wrench. Crescent makes an 8" model with an oversized jaw that is pretty swell. 1/4" drive and metric sockets. Also a hex to 1/4" drive adapter. Miscellaneous: Putty knife (useful for many things, not just putty) Hyde scraper (lighter than oldtool types) Locking blade utility knife (also usable for layout) Swiss Army knife. I favor the locking-blade models like the Adventurer. A reasonable person might also look at the Leatherman Wave or Juice CS4, which I actually like better for travel. The main purpose here is to have a working knife that might save you packing a separate awl and spare you changing bits on the screwdriver occasionally. -- _________________________________________ Thomas R. Bruce (trb2@c...) Director,Legal Information Institute Cornell Law School http://www.law.cornell.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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