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278540 Richard Wilson <yorkshireman@y...> 2024‑06‑18 Re: Purchased this saw
This is getting more interesting. 

I sharpened my saw with inspection and guesswork.  What I decided from
inspection was that the ‘Great American’ 3 point format was a bit weird
Both e ‘Champion’ and ‘Lance tooth’ patterns - as shown at 
https://antiquesknowhow.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Different-Types-of-
Antique-Crosscut-Saw-Tooth-Shapes-1024x852.jpg

Have cutters and rakers.  The cutters are pointy (technical term) and the rakers
have vertical ends to cause the crosscut fibres to roll out and be collected in
the gullets.  The configuration is 2 pointy ones to a raker.  The rakers are
effectively uni directional, so the leading raker is clearing the cut to allow
the next pair of cutters to sever right and left sides of the cut before the
trailing raker slides over, but the next raker is leading and scoops the cut
material into the gullet.

The Great American though, presents 3 working teeth to the cut at a time, and I
scratched my head a good bit before deciding that I would treat each pair of 3
point teeth as a set - so, the two outer teeth are rakers - as above, and each
inner point is sharpened alternately left or right.  A bit over the top if
crosscutting, but given that a raker is kind go trying to be a rip tooth,
effective for ripping.

Overall, you get a saw that works as a cross cut respectably, and also works as
a rip saw.
Maybe that’s why it was named ‘Great’?  


After this, I’ll put that extra bit of set on it to handle green timber, and
give it more exercise.


As ever - the Porch is the best place on the internet for deeply arcane
discussion about the real meaning of life, skills and craftsmanship



Richard Wilson
yorkshireman Galoot in Northumbria



> On 18 Jun 2024, at 17:43, Phil Schempf  wrote:
> 
> I was curious about that tooth pattern and doing some digging around I came
> across this article that I thought would be of interest -
> https://www.smalladventures.net/blog/2015/01/sharpening-great-american-
saw.html
> 
> The author admits he's never sharpened a saw before, but he reports what he
> found out about this tooth pattern.  The article was posted 9 years ago so
> some of its links are broken, but it is still an interesting read.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 8:32 AM Richard Wilson via groups.io  yorkshireman.info@g...> wrote:
> 
>> Coming late to this,   I never heard of the ’Tuttle’ tooth format, bit
>> looking at it, it seems to me that the leading raker will be channelling
>> all the waste into that large angled gap much as a plane blade creates
>> shavings - and it would be patentable as a design.
>> 
>> Oddly enough, I have a galootish saw not unlike this one
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.flinn-garlick-saws.co.uk/product/one-man-crosscut-saw-great-
american-tooth/
>> 
>> But about a hundred years older, that I was exhibiting only last week to
>> the volunteer gang assembling at Shilbottle Woods.  I was invited to ’talk
>> about it’ though I thought I’d just taken it to do some work.  Fortunately
>> it was sharp, as I also had to ‘demonstrate’.  Darn good saw - needed a bit
>> more set to deal with green softwood a bit more comfortably but
>> nonetheless, quicker ’n a cha*n saw to put to use and shorten an 8 inch
>> diameter stem.
>> 
>> I’m pretty sure Finn-Garlick would sell a handle if asked - but crossing
>> the Atlantic would cost more than an old one.
>> 
>> Richard Wilson
>> yorkshireman Galoot in Northumbria
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:54, cvc95@c... wrote:
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>>> I just purchased this saw.
>>> 
>> https://i.etsystatic.com/24542044/r/il/d93c3d/5353933660/il_680x540.535393366
0_lvm4.jpg
>>> I was told it was a rip saw, and that is what I am looking to use it for.
>>> Is this a saw blade anyone recognizes? How are these sharpened? Is there
>> specific points and angles that I should
>>> know about? Is there a good resource on how to sharpen handsaws?
>>> 
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>> --
>> Yorkshireman Galoot
>> in the most northerly county, farther north even than Yorkshire
>> IT #300
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-- 
Yorkshireman Galoot
in the most northerly county, farther north even than Yorkshire
IT #300

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