Galooterati,

Today’s Flea Market find is an unmarked modern-looking, vaguely European wooden
plane with a heavy double iron marked “CIAIO WOLFRAMIO”

I’m familiar with Wolfram being used in Swedish carbide tools, but this plane
iron is clearly steel, not carbide.

Photos will have to wait, but the plane looks like it might be made of Olive
wood.  It does seem to be Beech or European Elm. In profile, it kind of looks
like a “Horn Plane,” but there’s no sign of there ever having been a horn knob
on the front.

The sole has a Formica surface. This looks “factory;” the fit is perfect.

It has a wedge and also a threaded depth adjuster that requires the use of a
tommy bar in the holes in the head of the adjuster.

I must have seen a thousand wooden planes in my life, but never have I seen this
type of adjuster.

It does not adjust laterally except by hammering.

Can anyone shed any light on the meaning of “CIAIO WOLFRAMIO?”  ( A bit faint.
It might be “WOLFRAMO” )

I gave $5, missing the wooden wedge.

John Ruth
Sent from my iPhone

Maybe this one from our European correspondent Wolfgang?

https://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/engels.phtml


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:39 PM John Ruth  wrote:

> Galooterati,
>
> Today’s Flea Market find is an unmarked modern-looking, vaguely European
> wooden plane with a heavy double iron marked “CIAIO WOLFRAMIO”
>
> I’m familiar with Wolfram being used in Swedish carbide tools, but this
> plane iron is clearly steel, not carbide.
>
> Photos will have to wait, but the plane looks like it might be made of
> Olive wood.  It does seem to be Beech or European Elm. In profile, it kind
> of looks like a “Horn Plane,” but there’s no sign of there ever having been
> a horn knob on the front.
>
> The sole has a Formica surface. This looks “factory;” the fit is perfect.
>
> It has a wedge and also a threaded depth adjuster that requires the use of
> a tommy bar in the holes in the head of the adjuster.
>
> I must have seen a thousand wooden planes in my life, but never have I
> seen this type of adjuster.
>
> It does not adjust laterally except by hammering.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on the meaning of “CIAIO WOLFRAMIO?”  ( A bit
> faint. It might be “WOLFRAMO” )
>
> I gave $5, missing the wooden wedge.
>
> John Ruth
> Sent from my iPhone
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Sent from my iPad, apologies for the Auto Correct errors. Kirk

Or maybe this

https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_CIRTAAAAYAAJ/page/n49


A small amount down the right  page, seems to imply both are words for
tungsten steel (once you have all the letters).  Not gonna tell us who made
the plane or iron tho.

KE
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:26 PM Kirk Eppler  wrote:

> Maybe this one from our European correspondent Wolfgang?
>
> https://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/engels.phtml
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:39 PM John Ruth  wrote:
>
>> Galooterati,
>>
>> Today’s Flea Market find is an unmarked modern-looking, vaguely European
>> wooden plane with a heavy double iron marked “CIAIO WOLFRAMIO”
>>
>> I’m familiar with Wolfram being used in Swedish carbide tools, but this
>> plane iron is clearly steel, not carbide.
>>
>> Photos will have to wait, but the plane looks like it might be made of
>> Olive wood.  It does seem to be Beech or European Elm. In profile, it kind
>> of looks like a “Horn Plane,” but there’s no sign of there ever having been
>> a horn knob on the front.
>>
>> The sole has a Formica surface. This looks “factory;” the fit is perfect.
>>
>> It has a wedge and also a threaded depth adjuster that requires the use
>> of a tommy bar in the holes in the head of the adjuster.
>>
>> I must have seen a thousand wooden planes in my life, but never have I
>> seen this type of adjuster.
>>
>> It does not adjust laterally except by hammering.
>>
>> Can anyone shed any light on the meaning of “CIAIO WOLFRAMIO?”  ( A bit
>> faint. It might be “WOLFRAMO” )
>>
>> I gave $5, missing the wooden wedge.
>>
>> John Ruth
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool
>> aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage,
>> value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of
>> traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools.
>>
>> To change your subscription options:
>> https://oldtools.swingleydev.com/mailman/listinfo/oldtools
>>
>> To read the FAQ:
>> https://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html
>>
>> OldTools archive: https://swingleydev.com/ot/
>>
>> OldTools@s...
>
> --
> Sent from my iPad, apologies for the Auto Correct errors. Kirk
>
-- 
Sent from my iPad, apologies for the Auto Correct errors. Kirk

Ciaio could be acier...

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:58 PM Kirk Eppler via OldTools <
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